EVs... no one wants them!

[halo34]

DonkeyApple said:

The bloke is a professional thicko or his marketing schtick is to pretend to be. He has produced previous videos detailing his inability to understand very basic finance. Basically, he rented the car to make videos. When his audience wanted to be given boners being told how awesome EVs were that's what fell out of his potato face and then when his audience wanted boners from being told how bad they were he just changed the words that fell out of his vacant balloon. The world does need to concern itself over his faux trials and tribulations.

Jesus - you got that right in a nutshell, that's dire hysteria led content if ever there was. Again back to the point, find the right lens to agree with your world view and its out there. Being balanced is much harder....

[DonkeyApple]

Alickadoo said:

Don't disagree with that.

Surely, for us, as consumers, the answer is to find a three year old Taycan - if that is what we want - and haggle hard?

They're lovely cars and it's 100% a buyers market for used ones. One would be a fool to not screw them into the ground as you're still doing them a favour.

[braddo]

Ankh87 said:

I'm all for electric and seriously considering to get a used one next year if the price is right.

Aren't you someone who has posted many times on this thread about how mass adoption of EVs is not going to work?

Or am I thinking of another poster?

[Junkets]

Desiderata said:

I've been considering one for exactly these reasons. We've got a nice family car for long trips, an MX5 for fun. And something cheap to trundle down to the shops a couple of times a week. I think an old Leaf would do the trundle quite well and very cheaply.
Silly question, but could I charge it up overnight at 7p per unit then use the stored electricity during the day to run my household? It would be cheaper than a Tesla powerwall with the added advantage of having a spare occasional use car.

Could you use the family car to drive to the shops?

[MightyBadger]

I would have thought a cheap few years old Taycan would be a no brainer over dropping the same amount on a brand new family EV econobox? They must seem a bargain for EV buyers considering what they were selling for when brand new?

[MightyBadger]

DonkeyApple said:

Let's get the nylon suited grifters out of their glass temples and fighting each other in the road to win some customers.

[braddo]

MightyBadger said:

I would have thought a cheap few years old Taycan would be a no brainer over dropping the same amount on a brand new family EV econobox?

Or indeed any brand new family car in the £40-£50k range.

Cheapest Taycans on Autotrader are 4 cars in the £42-44k range, for 2020 models. Isn't that about average depreciation for luxury cars?

[MightyBadger]

Junkets said:

Could you use the family car to drive to the shops?

Great first post.

[TheRainMaker]

MightyBadger said:

I would have thought a cheap few years old Taycan would be a no brainer over dropping the same amount on a brand new family EV econobox? They must seem a bargain for EV buyers considering what they were selling for when brand new?

For most, though, it's all about the monthly payments. It is often much cheaper to get a new dull car than a four-year-old fun car, even if the sticker price is the same.

[Joscal]

DonkeyApple said:

They're lovely cars and it's 100% a buyers market for used ones. One would be a fool to not screw them into the ground as you're still doing them a favour.

That’s exactly what I did, leased one and it’s a far, far better car than the F10 M5 I mentioned a few posts up. Don’t give a damn about the depreciation, not my problem.

[charltjr]

braddo said:

Cheapest Taycans on Autotrader are 4 cars in the £42-44k range, for 2020 models. Isn't that about average depreciation for luxury cars?

Not far off. Residuals on the Panamera are pretty dire too, and that's basically the same class of car although not EV.

Large, expensive saloons depreciate fast - who knew.

The market is flooded with them because it's a very small niche and they made too many for the market to support because of the BIK benefits, that's all.

I looked at getting one, but they're just too bloody big.

[AstonZagato]

DonkeyApple said:

Alickadoo said:

MightyBadger said:

plfrench said:

Yes it does. The title should say "EVs... no dealer wants them in part exchange" then it would fit better

A Youtuber bought a Taycan from Porsche, after a while decides he wants a 911 instead. Porsche will only px the Taycan for another EV and not a 911

https://youtu.be/77Yo4LpksWM?si=SAXFBTaDpYiXR_RA

Just watched this video.

Where to start with criticism?

Why buy an electric car if all you are going to do is criticise it?
Buy one three years old seems to be the obvious answer.
The heater failing is Porsche's fault, not the fact that it is an electric car.
When you pull up at an electric charging point, get on with it - don't keep faffing around.

Plenty more.

The bloke is a professional thicko or his marketing schtick is to pretend to be. He has produced previous videos detailing his inability to understand very basic finance. Basically, he rented the car to make videos. When his audience wanted to be given boners being told how awesome EVs were that's what fell out of his potato face and then when his audience wanted boners from being told how bad they were he just changed the words that fell out of his vacant balloon. The world does need to concern itself over his faux trials and tribulations.

I didn't even need to click on the link to know who that was. He just makes himself look stupid in these videos.

[FWIW]

AstonZagato said:

I didn't even need to click on the link to know who that was. He just makes himself look stupid in these videos.

Yes, but to be fair, he understands his target audience…

[Oilchange]

M4cruiser said:

Who said carbon doesn't degrade, go have a look near the Titanic.

Bit of a niche example don't you think?
And not the conditions anything else made of carbon fibre would be subject to, ever!

[Wagonwheel555]

First public charge turned out to be a disappointment in the EV! Fortunately I only wanted a top up but would have been rather annoyed if I was near empty.

IONITY 350kw ones at Cobham services.

First one kept saying comms error with car.
Fine, moved to another one
Same error
Restarted and it said charging then promptly stopped
Eventually began to charge, we go in for 20 mins to eat and came out to find it stuck 5% in and decided it was ‘finished’

No signal inside there so wasn’t aware of the fact it had stopped

Absolutely no way I would rely on public charging for regular charges. End up having to stop a second time now which is a little annoying, albeit not the end of the world.

[740EVTORQUES]

Wagonwheel555 said:

First public charge turned out to be a disappointment in the EV! Fortunately I only wanted a top up but would have been rather annoyed if I was near empty.

IONITY 350kw ones at Cobham services.

First one kept saying comms error with car.
Fine, moved to another one
Same error
Restarted and it said charging then promptly stopped
Eventually began to charge, we go in for 20 mins to eat and came out to find it stuck 5% in and decided it was ‘finished’

No signal inside there so wasn’t aware of the fact it had stopped

Absolutely no way I would rely on public charging for regular charges. End up having to stop a second time now which is a little annoying, albeit not the end of the world.

What car is it? I’ve never had any issues with IONITY although I’ve never used the Cobham ones.

The best place for a quick fast charge for my KIA is Porsche Guildford!

[Big Nanas]

Wagonwheel555 said:

First public charge turned out to be a disappointment in the EV! Fortunately I only wanted a top up but would have been rather annoyed if I was near empty.

IONITY 350kw ones at Cobham services.

First one kept saying comms error with car.
Fine, moved to another one
Same error
Restarted and it said charging then promptly stopped
Eventually began to charge, we go in for 20 mins to eat and came out to find it stuck 5% in and decided it was ‘finished’

No signal inside there so wasn’t aware of the fact it had stopped

Absolutely no way I would rely on public charging for regular charges. End up having to stop a second time now which is a little annoying, albeit not the end of the world.

That's irritating for you, I can understand your frustration.
In the past few years of using Ionity, I've found them very reliable generally, so it could be a car related issue (not that helps, really).
In my time of hanging around Ionity chargers, I've noticed that a lot of VW group cars seem to have issues getting charged.
What's your car?

[Wagonwheel555]

Big Nanas said:

That's irritating for you, I can understand your frustration.
In the past few years of using Ionity, I've found them very reliable generally, so it could be a car related issue (not that helps, really).
In my time of hanging around Ionity chargers, I've noticed that a lot of VW group cars seem to have issues getting charged.
What's your car?

Cupra Born.

Perhaps it doesn’t get on with the Ionity. Just frustrating we will probably only need public charging 5-6 times a year and on the very first outing after clocking up 2k miles using the home charger it doesn’t work properly.

Hopefully when we stop again it’s another brand and works fine

[Ankh87]

This is the thing with public chargers. They are so unreliable which causes issues and once the public hears about this, they then are less likely to move to EV.
It's nearly impossible for you to go to a petrol station and not able to either put in petrol or for the pump to fail.

More needs to be done to make public chargers reliable, as it seems no one is giving a hoot about them.

[M4cruiser]

Ankh87 said:

More needs to be done to make public chargers reliable, as it seems no one is giving a hoot about them.

I'm confident the next government from next Friday will sort this out immediately, clarify the timescales of the switch-over, and incentivise local councils and businesses to set up many charging points in all towns.
(/exit J Clarkson sarcastic mode/)