Garage wrecked my Range Rover engine… please help
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ChocolateFrog said:
BricktopST205 said:
Outstanding finance of 28k on a Range Rover which I guess she paid close to nothing on the deposit. Then doesn't think that on a car that would have retailed around the 80k+ mark to not get any sort of warranty on it, especially with it being a JLR product! This is madness in itself. I wonder what the service history is like if it even had any!
I feel like that could be a thread in itself. There must be a few people on here that have ended up in similar positions where they've got significant finance on a metal brick.
What do you do?
It's all quite tragic really.
B'stard Child said:
CrgT16 said:
A 2016 RR 5.0L SVR with 90k miles will not cost £28k to buy, odd this thread… just saying
Thread OP didn't say that at all - it said they still owed £28K on finance - Just sayingOr as the OP put it, “they are a super car (not the SVR one which stands for SPECIAL VEHICLE)”
Gordon Hill said:
ChocolateFrog said:
BricktopST205 said:
Outstanding finance of 28k on a Range Rover which I guess she paid close to nothing on the deposit. Then doesn't think that on a car that would have retailed around the 80k+ mark to not get any sort of warranty on it, especially with it being a JLR product! This is madness in itself. I wonder what the service history is like if it even had any!
I feel like that could be a thread in itself. There must be a few people on here that have ended up in similar positions where they've got significant finance on a metal brick.
What do you do?
It's all quite tragic really.
About as risky as you can get this side of a Maserati I'd suggest.
Am I so glad I choose to own an old high mileage Toyota Prius after a string of more expensive cars that does everything I need and laps up whatever length of journey I throw at it.
Never puts a foot wrong routine maintenance only and if it did suffer a major catastrophe....in the bin....and source another.
Never puts a foot wrong routine maintenance only and if it did suffer a major catastrophe....in the bin....and source another.
Volvo1956 said:
Am I so glad I choose to own an old high mileage Toyota Prius after a string of more expensive cars that does everything I need and laps up whatever length of journey I throw at it.
Never puts a foot wrong routine maintenance only and if it did suffer a major catastrophe....in the bin....and source another.
Nothing whatsoever wrong in owning a nice car, we all love cars on here and although I run sheds (through choice) I love seeing nice cars and the enjoyment that people get from them. Never puts a foot wrong routine maintenance only and if it did suffer a major catastrophe....in the bin....and source another.
That being said I do think that it's a bit silly stretching yourself to the point of bankruptcy to make the payments on a car and have f#ck all in the fridge and not being able to put it right if it sh#ts itself. But it's not my life it's theirs so crack on if that's what they want to do.
Richard-D said:
LooneyTunes said:
Heathwood said:
BricktopST205 said:
That is a silly analogy because you have the insurance to cover that eventuality.
For example you buy a house with a mortgage and you a) get insurance to cover you in these sort of things and b) get life insurance to cover you in the case of death or serious illness that renders you unable to work. It is actually why it is law to have house insurance so these things do not happen.
There is far too much ignorance in this country without consequence that these kind of people never learn from their mistakes but in this case I guess she will.
Outstanding finance of 28k on a Range Rover which I guess she paid close to nothing on the deposit. Then doesn't think that on a car that would have retailed around the 80k+ mark to not get any sort of warranty on it, especially with it being a JLR product! This is madness in itself. I wonder what the service history is like if it even had any!
Re. the bolded bit - Really? I don’t think this is the case, at least in uk. For example you buy a house with a mortgage and you a) get insurance to cover you in these sort of things and b) get life insurance to cover you in the case of death or serious illness that renders you unable to work. It is actually why it is law to have house insurance so these things do not happen.
There is far too much ignorance in this country without consequence that these kind of people never learn from their mistakes but in this case I guess she will.
Outstanding finance of 28k on a Range Rover which I guess she paid close to nothing on the deposit. Then doesn't think that on a car that would have retailed around the 80k+ mark to not get any sort of warranty on it, especially with it being a JLR product! This is madness in itself. I wonder what the service history is like if it even had any!
Gordon Hill said:
Volvo1956 said:
Am I so glad I choose to own an old high mileage Toyota Prius after a string of more expensive cars that does everything I need and laps up whatever length of journey I throw at it.
Never puts a foot wrong routine maintenance only and if it did suffer a major catastrophe....in the bin....and source another.
Nothing whatsoever wrong in owning a nice car, we all love cars on here and although I run sheds (through choice) I love seeing nice cars and the enjoyment that people get from them. Never puts a foot wrong routine maintenance only and if it did suffer a major catastrophe....in the bin....and source another.
That being said I do think that it's a bit silly stretching yourself to the point of bankruptcy to make the payments on a car and have f#ck all in the fridge and not being able to put it right if it sh#ts itself. But it's not my life it's theirs so crack on if that's what they want to do.
GT9 said:
Cold said:
Well, first they would have to actually fit a turbocharger, then I suppose they could change the oil seal - but some might suggest it might be prudent to check it before fitting.
Otherwise, yes, like you say clockwork.
Not actually sure, are you due a parrot?Otherwise, yes, like you say clockwork.
If I had to check the compression on any engine with a suspected timing chain fault then the last thing I would do is to wind it over on the starter, never mind actually start it up!
Should have used a leak-down tester and turned the crank very carefully by hand, only needs two revolutions to check all 8 cylinders.
The damage was probably already done when it arrived at the second garage but IMO they were very unwise to start it up.
I have seen this kind of thing many times, ie oil light comes on and the owner drives it home as “its not very far”, wrecking the engine. Same scenario with coolant loss or overheating, saving £100 on recovery and costing thousands to repair the damage.
Should have used a leak-down tester and turned the crank very carefully by hand, only needs two revolutions to check all 8 cylinders.
The damage was probably already done when it arrived at the second garage but IMO they were very unwise to start it up.
I have seen this kind of thing many times, ie oil light comes on and the owner drives it home as “its not very far”, wrecking the engine. Same scenario with coolant loss or overheating, saving £100 on recovery and costing thousands to repair the damage.
Hereward said:
GT9 said:
Cold said:
Well, first they would have to actually fit a turbocharger, then I suppose they could change the oil seal - but some might suggest it might be prudent to check it before fitting.
Otherwise, yes, like you say clockwork.
Not actually sure, are you due a parrot?Otherwise, yes, like you say clockwork.
Maybe read the whole thread, of course I know it has a supercharger, I said so earlier in the thread.
The turbocharger comment was satire which I thought would be obvious to anyone, except maybe the OP.
Apparently not.
Flumpo said:
It wasn’t the law in 2019 as I can’t get life insurance and it wasn’t an issue for nationwide and I made it very clear as I failed their life insurance criteria - as I told them I would before hand!
Edit - bit confusing, you may be talking about house insurance. I suspect there are a lot of people breaking that law if it is one.
I wasn't talking about life insurance being mandatory but is more like a warranty for your car but for your body instead! However I think pretty much all mortgage providers will not give you a mortgage without having house insurance. Maybe it isn't law but it definitely a requirement to get a mortgage. Edit - bit confusing, you may be talking about house insurance. I suspect there are a lot of people breaking that law if it is one.
kev b said:
If I had to check the compression on any engine with a suspected timing chain fault then the last thing I would do is to wind it over on the starter, never mind actually start it up!
Should have used a leak-down tester and turned the crank very carefully by hand, only needs two revolutions to check all 8 cylinders.
The damage was probably already done when it arrived at the second garage but IMO they were very unwise to start it up.
I have seen this kind of thing many times, ie oil light comes on and the owner drives it home as “its not very far”, wrecking the engine. Same scenario with coolant loss or overheating, saving £100 on recovery and costing thousands to repair the damage.
We can all speculate but judging from the OP she took it to her "local" garage to check it who turned her away as they were not specialised enough to deal with it. That is alarm bells straight away as where has she been having it serviced previously? Surely a JLR product with a 5.0 would at least be looked after with a specialist or main dealer as it is only 8 years old. It is not something you handover care to Quick fit or Halfords service centres. The minute she said she had to google "Land Rover Specialist" would say this is the case. Most likely had generic oil filters and oil out the barrel and now stretched its chain and messed up the valvetrain! Should have used a leak-down tester and turned the crank very carefully by hand, only needs two revolutions to check all 8 cylinders.
The damage was probably already done when it arrived at the second garage but IMO they were very unwise to start it up.
I have seen this kind of thing many times, ie oil light comes on and the owner drives it home as “its not very far”, wrecking the engine. Same scenario with coolant loss or overheating, saving £100 on recovery and costing thousands to repair the damage.
BricktopST205 said:
We can all speculate but judging from the OP she took it to her "local" garage to check it who turned her away as they were not specialised enough to deal with it. That is alarm bells straight away as where has she been having it serviced previously? Surely a JLR product with a 5.0 would at least be looked after with a specialist or main dealer as it is only 8 years old. It is not something you handover care to Quick fit or Halfords service centres. The minute she said she had to google "Land Rover Specialist" would say this is the case. Most likely had generic oil filters and oil out the barrel and now stretched its chain and messed up the valvetrain!
TBF few places do proper work these days. If its more involved than a set of discs and pads then a lot of places start turning their noses up. BricktopST205 said:
We can all speculate but judging from the OP she took it to her "local" garage to check it who turned her away as they were not specialised enough to deal with it. That is alarm bells straight away as where has she been having it serviced previously?
I bought a spares-or-repairs BMW with a gearbox fault, suspected electrical. The seller called several local garages but none were keen to even look at the car, and the specialist was fully booked.I could well *imagine* my local fast-fit style garage might be hesitant to do a large engine rebuild on a newer car that they've not done before - it's very likely they'd be uncompetitive against a specialist, and "simpler" service/repairs they do more often would probably be much more profitable because the work could be done quicker against book time.
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