Can Sir Keir Starmer revive the Labour Party? (Vol. 2)
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Gender is still a problem for Starmer. Did anyone catch the BBC R5 call-in? Apparently there was another uncomfortable moment when SKS clashed with a female caller who wanted to know why Starmer was “not listening to biological women when they say they don’t want to share a space with biological men”. When he didged the question by talking about his time as Chief Prosecutor, the caller replied by accusing him of “absolute twaddle”.
Labour have a free pass to No 10 this time around, prepare for five years of ineptitude, flip flops,
Starmer will be asking for another five years 2029 following a period of nothingness.
‘smash the gangs’ talk is an insult to the electorate, does he think we do not look at mainland Europe and how they are controlling the migrant crisis. Clue, they can’t and nor can starmer, even though his father was a toolmaker
Starmer will be asking for another five years 2029 following a period of nothingness.
‘smash the gangs’ talk is an insult to the electorate, does he think we do not look at mainland Europe and how they are controlling the migrant crisis. Clue, they can’t and nor can starmer, even though his father was a toolmaker
crankedup5 said:
Labour have a free pass to No 10 this time around, prepare for five years of ineptitude, flip flops,
Starmer will be asking for another five years 2029 following a period of nothingness.
‘smash the gangs’ talk is an insult to the electorate, does he think we do not look at mainland Europe and how they are controlling the migrant crisis. Clue, they can’t and nor can starmer, even though his father was a toolmaker
His father certainly made at least one impeccable tool.Starmer will be asking for another five years 2029 following a period of nothingness.
‘smash the gangs’ talk is an insult to the electorate, does he think we do not look at mainland Europe and how they are controlling the migrant crisis. Clue, they can’t and nor can starmer, even though his father was a toolmaker
I see they are going to come after private pensions again.
turbobloke said:
Gender is still a problem for Starmer. Did anyone catch the BBC R5 call-in? Apparently there was another uncomfortable moment when SKS clashed with a female caller who wanted to know why Starmer was “not listening to biological women when they say they don’t want to share a space with biological men”. When he didged the question by talking about his time as Chief Prosecutor, the caller replied by accusing him of “absolute twaddle”.
In fairness he was not allowed to answer but was constantly interrupted. On the other hand the reason he was interrupted is that he was coming up with largely irrelevant anecdotes about his time as a barrister and DPP whilst trying to avoid answering a fairly direct question.And yes it was diversionary twaddle, mostly.
Oh how perfectly delicious.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-priva...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-priva...
Telegraph said:
Sir Keir Starmer’s planned VAT raid on private schools is likely to breach human rights law.
Lord Pannick, who has taken on some of the UK’s most high-profile court cases, backed legal advice warning that making private schools subject to VAT was likely to breach ECHR law.
Lord Pannick, who has taken on some of the UK’s most high-profile court cases, backed legal advice warning that making private schools subject to VAT was likely to breach ECHR law.
)Vanden Saab said:
Oh how perfectly delicious.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-priva...
Lord Pannick, who attended a private school, is going in to bat for private schools? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-priva...
Telegraph said:
Sir Keir Starmer’s planned VAT raid on private schools is likely to breach human rights law.
Lord Pannick, who has taken on some of the UK’s most high-profile court cases, backed legal advice warning that making private schools subject to VAT was likely to breach ECHR law.
Lord Pannick, who has taken on some of the UK’s most high-profile court cases, backed legal advice warning that making private schools subject to VAT was likely to breach ECHR law.
FiF said:
In fairness he was not allowed to answer but was constantly interrupted. On the other hand the reason he was interrupted is that he was coming up with largely irrelevant anecdotes about his time as a barrister and DPP whilst trying to avoid answering a fairly direct question.
And yes it was diversionary twaddle, mostly.
Went on about how he worked to reduce violence against girls and women, yet the grooming gangs were operating during that time were they not?And yes it was diversionary twaddle, mostly.
Oliver Hardy said:
FiF said:
In fairness he was not allowed to answer but was constantly interrupted. On the other hand the reason he was interrupted is that he was coming up with largely irrelevant anecdotes about his time as a barrister and DPP whilst trying to avoid answering a fairly direct question.
And yes it was diversionary twaddle, mostly.
Went on about how he worked to reduce violence against girls and women, yet the grooming gangs were operating during that time were they not?And yes it was diversionary twaddle, mostly.
Vanden Saab said:
Oh how perfectly delicious.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-priva...
And so it begins.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-priva...
Telegraph said:
Sir Keir Starmer’s planned VAT raid on private schools is likely to breach human rights law.
Lord Pannick, who has taken on some of the UK’s most high-profile court cases, backed legal advice warning that making private schools subject to VAT was likely to breach ECHR law.
Lord Pannick, who has taken on some of the UK’s most high-profile court cases, backed legal advice warning that making private schools subject to VAT was likely to breach ECHR law.
Telegraph has a rather hysterical article about Labour moving public money away from middle-class areas once in power.
Based on a line in the manifesto "they will enact the socia-economic duty in the equalities act 2010".
If true to any extent I suspect hopes of better public services in exchange for more tax might prove to be incorrect in the leafy suburbs, though I am sure we will see the latter.
Based on a line in the manifesto "they will enact the socia-economic duty in the equalities act 2010".
If true to any extent I suspect hopes of better public services in exchange for more tax might prove to be incorrect in the leafy suburbs, though I am sure we will see the latter.
hidetheelephants said:
Vanden Saab said:
Oh how perfectly delicious.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-priva...
Lord Pannick, who attended a private school, is going in to bat for private schools? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/labour-priva...
Telegraph said:
Sir Keir Starmer’s planned VAT raid on private schools is likely to breach human rights law.
Lord Pannick, who has taken on some of the UK’s most high-profile court cases, backed legal advice warning that making private schools subject to VAT was likely to breach ECHR law.
Lord Pannick, who has taken on some of the UK’s most high-profile court cases, backed legal advice warning that making private schools subject to VAT was likely to breach ECHR law.
isaldiri said:
Lord Pannick who is a noted and very highly regarded lawyer that has dealt with a lot of human rights cases is pointing out a potential problem with ECHR law. Being shocked or not is entirely up to you.
A lawyer is arguing that his case is right and the opposite case isn't. It's how law works.hidetheelephants said:
isaldiri said:
Lord Pannick who is a noted and very highly regarded lawyer that has dealt with a lot of human rights cases is pointing out a potential problem with ECHR law. Being shocked or not is entirely up to you.
A lawyer is arguing that his case is right and the opposite case isn't. It's how law works.Of course he must know his plan is probably illegal being a top lawyer and all so the question then is why suggest it. It seems especially stupid as if it is ruled against it will bring a whole group of people to the leave the ECHR cause.
Vanden Saab said:
Do you think Labour will leave the ECHR or just ignore its ruling? I look forward to your reaction when a lawyer in his pyjamas somewhere in the EU puts the legislation on hold. It is shocking that the former DPP is even suggesting it. Just what we have come to expect from the Starnak party though.
Of course he must know his plan is probably illegal being a top lawyer and all so the question then is why suggest it. It seems especially stupid as if it is ruled against it will bring a whole group of people to the leave the ECHR cause.
Is this one the new "but he had a Curry"? Of course he must know his plan is probably illegal being a top lawyer and all so the question then is why suggest it. It seems especially stupid as if it is ruled against it will bring a whole group of people to the leave the ECHR cause.
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