Top 5 financial things to do before labour get in?

Top 5 financial things to do before labour get in?

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Esquire

39 posts

3 months

Wednesday 26th June
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alscar said:
I had taken already a very small percentage but yes have now asked for the full 25%.
Paperwork signed.
Money is going to my 3 children as house funds / early inheritance.
Makes sense then. No risk to the kids future inheritance that way.

I'll be making the call come september i imagine.

98elise

27,108 posts

164 months

Wednesday 26th June
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alscar said:
Esquire said:
Not sure Labour want anymore than future tax rises through pensions tbh.
KS has said Labour wants wealth creation - what he didn’t make clear was who for ?!
I'm all for wealth creation, not so much wealth redistribution.




alscar

4,472 posts

216 months

Wednesday 26th June
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98elise said:
I'm all for wealth creation, not so much wealth redistribution.
Indeed but their redefining of the “ working person “ title will see to it.

Puzzles

1,973 posts

114 months

Wednesday 26th June
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okgo

38,607 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th June
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alscar said:
Indeed but their redefining of the “ working person “ title will see to it.
It’s a tiny band of low-mid earners that aren’t retired isn’t it?


Puzzles

1,973 posts

114 months

Wednesday 26th June
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okgo said:
alscar said:
Indeed but their redefining of the “ working person “ title will see to it.
It’s a tiny band of low-mid earners that aren’t retired isn’t it?
And have no savings

alscar

4,472 posts

216 months

Thursday
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okgo said:
It’s a tiny band of low-mid earners that aren’t retired isn’t it?
No idea but you are probably right but KS's definition of " working " doesn't just apply to Pensions.

alscar

4,472 posts

216 months

Thursday
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Puzzles said:
And have no savings
Indeed - but as per my previous reply this wasn't really my point.
However as the " pot " of people affected by wealth re-distribution is in the scheme of things probably still very modest ( ie people that work or have worked and do have savings ) 99% of others won't care anyway.

48k

13,360 posts

151 months

Thursday
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BigMon said:
We're not in a good position, so we'll see what Labour can do if they get in,
A neat summary of why this country is sleepwalking in to a Labour government which only has 3 policies :

1. We're not the Conservatives
2. Private schools are obviously only for rich people, so let's knobble them.
3. See policy 1.

Mr Whippy

29,165 posts

244 months

48k said:
BigMon said:
We're not in a good position, so we'll see what Labour can do if they get in,
A neat summary of why this country is sleepwalking in to a Labour government which only has 3 policies :

1. We're not the Conservatives
2. Private schools are obviously only for rich people, so let's knobble them.
3. See policy 1.
Indeed. They’re all the same now, trading on rubbish differences as if they matter.

The truth is there is no solution now. It’s controlled decline.
No one has the backbone to risk trying to reignite the fire, and those who do get shot down.

MiniPro3

30 posts

16 months

Normal working people with no savings!

So if you are a normal working person with savings what the caveat?

are they going to tax cash ISA's unearned interest , maybe even retrospect years of unearned interest !

say you have no pension your near retirement age and this is your only retirement fund ?

Is it time to cash in ISA's and put money under floorboards or buy a holiday home in Spain or just blow the lot on hookers and drugs so an early death

bowtie


alscar

4,472 posts

216 months

MiniPro3 said:
Normal working people with no savings!

So if you are a normal working person with savings what the caveat?

are they going to tax cash ISA's unearned interest , maybe even retrospect years of unearned interest !

say you have no pension your near retirement age and this is your only retirement fund ?

Is it time to cash in ISA's and put money under floorboards or buy a holiday home in Spain or just blow the lot on hookers and drugs so an early death

bowtie
Bear in mind it won’t just be in one area where Labour will need / want to raise money.
As far as ISA’s are concerned it’s much more likely to introduce a maximum amount you can have ( and yes I would equally imagine some form of grandfathering to apply ) , with then perhaps a reduced amount possible per year.
Council tax probably remains the no 1 option along with all the other things they will no doubt announce in time.

borcy

3,414 posts

59 months

I don't really give much weight to the define a working person routine in the press. Just looks to me like something to trip people up in interviews, bit like asking how much a pint of milk is.

fat80b

2,336 posts

224 months

borcy said:
I don't really give much weight to the define a working person routine in the press. Just looks to me like something to trip people up in interviews, bit like asking how much a pint of milk is.
Then I’d politely suggest that you are being rather naive.

Everyone should know that politician speak is coded carefully to give them the room to do things without saying they’ve broken a promise.

In this case, it’s clearly telegraphed what might happen. Anyone who isn’t on a minimum wage worker is a target for tax increases.

The money has to come from somewhere and there aren’t enough non doms to cover anything like what they’ll need.

People need to remember this in a few year’s time.

If you want to se what could happen then check out some of the Times Radio YouTube content with Peter Hitchens - I know he’s got an axe to grind but there’s quite a lot of truth in what he’s saying.


borcy

3,414 posts

59 months

fat80b said:
borcy said:
I don't really give much weight to the define a working person routine in the press. Just looks to me like something to trip people up in interviews, bit like asking how much a pint of milk is.
Then I’d politely suggest that you are being rather naive.

Everyone should know that politician speak is coded carefully to give them the room to do things without saying they’ve broken a promise.

In this case, it’s clearly telegraphed what might happen. Anyone who isn’t on a minimum wage worker is a target for tax increases.

The money has to come from somewhere and there aren’t enough non doms to cover anything like what they’ll need.

People need to remember this in a few year’s time.

If you want to se what could happen then check out some of the Times Radio YouTube content with Peter Hitchens - I know he’s got an axe to grind but there’s quite a lot of truth in what he’s saying.
I think taxes will rise, both parties want to avoid admitting it. But debates/traps set by the press on what is a working person are nonsense. I think some people's imaginations run away with them.

tighnamara

2,218 posts

156 months

borcy said:
I don't really give much weight to the define a working person routine in the press. Just looks to me like something to trip people up in interviews, bit like asking how much a pint of milk is.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-does-keir-starmer-think-a-working-person-is/


borcy

3,414 posts

59 months

tighnamara said:
Yes that's the nonsense I was talking about.

supersport

4,125 posts

230 months

Saturday
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The Labour Party have been using this term “working people” for some years now and it’s blatantly clear that they don’t mean all working people.

It’s not a thing made up by the press. Yes they make up a lot of crap and to mind my mind deliberately act as wind up merchants. But Labour came up with this one on their own.

The Leaper

5,007 posts

209 months

Saturday
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Angela Rayner said recently: " A working class person is someone who has a job but no savings."

Keir Starmer said recently: " A working class person is someone who has a job but would have trouble writing a cheque should an unexpected bill arrive."

These were not made up media stories.

So, anyone who considers themselves working class and has savings and/or a cheque book is a target for Labour's future plans for tax increases.

Anyone know what the Conservatives' present definition of working class is?

R.

MiniPro3

30 posts

16 months

Saturday
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So by labour being evasive on what its real agender is then one can assume anyone with spare capital is fair game, so any ideas where to invest to avoid labours theft, after all we paid tax on your savings, we pay income tax NI (Tax) even the air we breath is taxed (ULEZ) if the Gov, weren't so incompetent with our tax they wouldn't need to tax more. So where would someone send their hard earned wealth to avoid labours theft ?