Reform UK - A symptom of all that is wrong?

[Elysium]

B'stard Child said:

PurplePenguin said:

I think it’s a mechanism to give the Tories a proper bloody nose as opposed to a little tap on the back of the hand.

<snip>

I’m more worried that a very large Labour majority will go to their heads to the detriment of the country.

I don't want to see them get a bloody nose that's far too good for them - I want to see them eviscerated for the st storm of the last 5 years

I'm not voting reform BTW

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nigel-farage...

Edited by Elysium on Thursday 27th June 23:16

[B'stard Child]

Elysium said:

B'stard Child said:

PurplePenguin said:

I think it’s a mechanism to give the Tories a proper bloody nose as opposed to a little tap on the back of the hand.

<snip>

I’m more worried that a very large Labour majority will go to their heads to the detriment of the country.

I don't want to see them get a bloody nose that's far too good for them - I want to see them eviscerated for the st storm of the last 5 years

I'm not voting reform BTW

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nigel-farage-second-and-third-lockdowns-biggest-ever-peacetime-mistake/ar-BB1p0zQP

s can be right sometimes - doesn't make them any less of a

[fido]

bhstewie said:

Asking why Farage attracts the sort of people he does is probably a bit uncomfortable for some of the people on this thread because it's basically asking them to insist they really don't endorse for any of the things he or his repellent candidates stand for whilst also saying they'll vote for it.

I would get some new panes for your greenhouse (red roses naturally). Not just volunteers but MPs ..

https://inews.co.uk/news/labour-mps-candidates-sus...

[otolith]

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

Here we are.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1806374007521849...

Ah look, the mask has slipped.

It won’t do them any harm, the mask has slipped to reveal that Reform holds the same obnoxious opinions that their supporters have.

[jdw100]

otolith said:

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

Here we are.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1806374007521849...

Ah look, the mask has slipped.

It won’t do them any harm, the mask has slipped to reveal that Reform holds the same obnoxious opinions that their supporters have.

Obese, awful suit, terrible accent (shoo’ ‘em o’ the beechez), racist……

Just the person I’d pick to represent this ‘party’.

[4.7AMV8]

jdw100 said:

otolith said:

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

Here we are.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1806374007521849...

Ah look, the mask has slipped.

It won’t do them any harm, the mask has slipped to reveal that Reform holds the same obnoxious opinions that their supporters have.

Obese, awful suit, terrible accent (shoo’ ‘em o’ the beechez), racist……

Just the person I’d pick to represent this ‘party’.

Weirdly, i keep thinking about this when i saw the clip....

[fourstardan]

Farage has shown some quick actions on this and thats a feather in the cap for me.

Now onto establishing whether other parties actually broke laws.

[tamore]

fourstardan said:

Farage has shown some quick actions on this and thats a feather in the cap for me..

then he could take a dump live on tv and shout 'that's you that is!' down the camera to the audience and i suspect you'd forgive him.

[tangerine_sedge]

fourstardan said:

Farage has shown some quick actions on this and thats a feather in the cap for me.

Now onto establishing whether other parties actually broke laws.

What is it about reform that attracts these people and then makes them think that the others joining the party also hold similar views? They are either not very bright, or think that other reform members are a safe space for their views?

Other parties might have some people with deplorable opinions, but it seems to be a pre-requisite for the reform party.

[Randy Winkman]

otolith said:

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

Here we are.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1806374007521849...

Ah look, the mask has slipped.

It won’t do them any harm, the mask has slipped to reveal that Reform holds the same obnoxious opinions that their supporters have.

I agree that it wont do them any harm because as far as I am concerned there was no mask in the first place. A bit like the news from the US about the debate - we all knew Trump was a big fat liar anyway so he's not the one that will lose votes after that.

[g3org3y]

jdw100 said:

otolith said:

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

Here we are.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1806374007521849...

Ah look, the mask has slipped.

It won’t do them any harm, the mask has slipped to reveal that Reform holds the same obnoxious opinions that their supporters have.

Obese, awful suit, terrible accent (shoo’ ‘em o’ the beechez), racist……

Just the person I’d pick to represent this ‘party’.

Why does it matter that he's obese?

[Timothy Bucktu]

g3org3y said:

jdw100 said:

otolith said:

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

Here we are.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1806374007521849...

Ah look, the mask has slipped.

It won’t do them any harm, the mask has slipped to reveal that Reform holds the same obnoxious opinions that their supporters have.

Obese, awful suit, terrible accent (shoo’ ‘em o’ the beechez), racist……

Just the person I’d pick to represent this ‘party’.

Why does it matter that he's obese?

It's OK when they do it...silly.

[bitchstewie]

fourstardan said:

Farage has shown some quick actions on this and thats a feather in the cap for me.

Now onto establishing whether other parties actually broke laws.

Do you think he's shown "some quick actions" because it's his first instinct or because it's in Clacton so it's damaging his chances of being elected?

He doesn't seem to have shown such quick actions in other cases does he?

When it's somewhere else he literally has spokesmen downplaying it saying they aren't a party of political zombies.

The question you have to ask is whether what's happened here is something unique to the people campaigning for Reform UK in Clacton that by sheer luck happened to be caught on hidden camera or if it's possible Clacton is getting more scrutiny than elsewhere because Farage is standing there and they were unlucky or stupid enough to say the quiet part out loud and get filmed doing it.

[jdw100]

g3org3y said:

jdw100 said:

otolith said:

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

Here we are.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1806374007521849...

Ah look, the mask has slipped.

It won’t do them any harm, the mask has slipped to reveal that Reform holds the same obnoxious opinions that their supporters have.

Obese, awful suit, terrible accent (shoo’ ‘em o’ the beechez), racist……

Just the person I’d pick to represent this ‘party’.

Why does it matter that he's obese?

I just expect these people to be overweight/obese.

Fits the stereotype that comes to my mind.

If he wasn’t in his awful suit and if younger he might be filling out a football shirt and shouting ‘eeennnngggerrrlaaand!’

[Digga]

tangerine_sedge said:

fourstardan said:

Farage has shown some quick actions on this and thats a feather in the cap for me.

Now onto establishing whether other parties actually broke laws.

What is it about reform that attracts these people and then makes them think that the others joining the party also hold similar views? They are either not very bright, or think that other reform members are a safe space for their views?

Other parties might have some people with deplorable opinions, but it seems to be a pre-requisite for the reform party.

Pretty obvious. A party that has made immigration one of it's core issues is always going to attract the wrong sort of views on the subject. Given that both Labour and the Conservatives have also added this issue to their respective manifestos does not mean they are approaching it from the same standpoint.

There have been cases of racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, bullying, cronyism, graft in all parties. However, in the case of racism, the Reform party, out of them, needs to exercise the most caution, if they do not wish to morph into the sort of party very, very few would ever wish to support.

[I am alright Jack]

jdw100 said:

otolith said:

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

Here we are.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1806374007521849...

Ah look, the mask has slipped.

It won’t do them any harm, the mask has slipped to reveal that Reform holds the same obnoxious opinions that their supporters have.

Obese, awful suit, terrible accent (shoo’ ‘em o’ the beechez), racist……

Just the person I’d pick to represent this ‘party’.

Are canvases picked or are they simply volunteers that turn up? I really don't know.

[swisstoni]

jdw100 said:

I just expect these people to be overweight/obese.

Fits the stereotype that comes to my mind.

If he wasn’t in his awful suit and if younger he might be filling out a football shirt and shouting ‘eeennnngggerrrlaaand!’

Emily?

[Digga]

I am alright Jack said:

Are canvases picked or are they simply volunteers that turn up? I really don't know.

In all honesty, given what you have seen of UK politics, what 'process' do you imagine here, for any party?

I cannot square the idea that any are overrun with armies of keen, willing and thoroughly vetted volunteers.

[S600BSB]

I am alright Jack said:

jdw100 said:

otolith said:

Castrol for a knave said:

bhstewie said:

Here we are.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/1806374007521849...

Ah look, the mask has slipped.

It won’t do them any harm, the mask has slipped to reveal that Reform holds the same obnoxious opinions that their supporters have.

Obese, awful suit, terrible accent (shoo’ ‘em o’ the beechez), racist……

Just the person I’d pick to represent this ‘party’.

Are canvases picked or are they simply volunteers that turn up? I really don't know.

Usually local party members volunteer. The mainstream parties provide training/support etc. With Reform you just have to hold awful racist/homophobic views and be thick as mince.

[Jordie Barretts sock]

You think all Reform supporters are racist and homophobic?

Because I seriously doubt that is true.