RE: Audi Sport quietly beats Porsche at own game

RE: Audi Sport quietly beats Porsche at own game

Thursday 27th June

Audi Sport quietly beats Porsche at own game

The new 640hp RS Q8 performance recently went quicker than the Cayenne GT Turbo at the Nordschleife. But shh...


When Audi retook the compact car Nurburgring lap record with the next generation of RS3, it announced it from the heavens. But when the new RS Q8 - a car which, let’s not forget, is the most powerful series production Audi Sport ever and worth shouting about for various reasons - duly goes top of the SUV leaderboard with a remarkable 7:36.698 time, it does its level best to keep it to itself. (Or at any rate it declined to include the revelation in the press kit sent out ahead of time or deliver a video of Frank Stippler’s new lap.) 

Why the difference? Well, because in the case of the RS3, it was BMW’s parade that got rained on. Nicking bragging rights from the M2 was obviously a developmental target and Audi Sport gets to be publicly tickled pink about it. But in the RS Q8’s case, the car it officially dethroned (we assume it is official) is the previous Cayenne GT Turbo. And while that model is now old news in Porsche’s book (in Europe at least), the firm is famously tetchy about being gazumped on the Nordschleife - even when the gazumper is a stablemate and platform sharer.

Probably that makes it worse. As we reported earlier in the week, the new RS Q8 performance variant gets the 640hp stripe of 4.0-litre V8 that Porsche has decided to forgo with the latest and increasingly hybridised Cayenne. Audi Sport cites the additional output as key in going ‘more than two seconds faster than the previous fastest vehicle in the SUV class’ (it politely doesn’t mention the Cayenne by name) alongside the RS-specific tuning of the adaptive air suspension, active anti-roll, all-wheel steering and quattro all-wheel drive system. 

"The RS Q8 performance owes its new lap record on the Nordschleife not only to the perfect interplay between the V8 engine and suspension components, but also to the passion of the Audi Sport GmbH team for absolute performance. It also offers first-class suitability for everyday use," said Rolf Michl, the firm’s MD. That last point, of course, suggests what might actually turn out to be the salt in the wound: the old GT Turbo was formidable to drive, yet hard to live with all the time. If the RS Q8 is both quicker at the Nurburgring but also easier going in the real world, its team really can celebrate a market-leading monster SUV. But only quietly it seems.


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IMI A

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Incredible lap time.

fantheman80

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52 months

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So Porsches 'honed on track' GT special gets beaten by its fat uncle? Awks in the VAG canteen....

wc98

10,656 posts

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Utterly mental lap time in something that size, would love a passenger lap in it with a driver of that ability.

J77wck

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I don't understand way you would want a SUV to be this fast around track.

EmailAddress

12,480 posts

221 months

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What a gyp... '...specific tuning of the adaptive air suspension...'

So they slammed it, to lap it.

trails

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J77wck said:
I don't understand way you would want a SUV to be this fast around track.
Genitalia measuring.

EmailAddress

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trails said:
J77wck said:
I don't understand way you would want a SUV to be this fast around track.
Genitalia measuring.
To cross the Midlands ringroads as fast as possible when your second phone vibrate in ya man-pouch?

trails

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EmailAddress said:
trails said:
J77wck said:
I don't understand way you would want a SUV to be this fast around track.
Genitalia measuring.
To cross the Midlands ringroads as fast as possible when your second phone vibrate in ya man-pouch?
Bluetooth headset for the second phone m8.

Downward

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trails said:
J77wck said:
I don't understand way you would want a SUV to be this fast around track.
Genitalia measuring.
Hmm who would buy it though, Golfclub members, Tennis club members ?

IMI A

Original Poster:

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Downward said:
trails said:
J77wck said:
I don't understand way you would want a SUV to be this fast around track.
Genitalia measuring.
Hmm who would buy it though, Golfclub members, Tennis club members ?
Its funny my neighbour here in UAE has one of these. He's a batchelor! I'm jealous smile

Charlie_1

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J77wck said:
I don't understand way you would want a SUV to be this fast around track.
Because you can ?

CKY

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Only 7 seconds slower over 14 miles than a F90 BMW M5 CS? Wow, good effort Audi - be interesting to see whether it's faster than the new 2.5 Tonne BMW.

J77wck

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Charlie_1 said:
J77wck said:
I don't understand way you would want a SUV to be this fast around track.
Because you can ?
But people don't track them.

Sean 2000

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Wow another 3 tonne barge around the ring, not really news is it?

jimmytheone

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fantheman80 said:
So Porsches 'honed on track' GT special gets beaten by its fat uncle? Awks in the VAG canteen....
That conjures an unpleasant mental image biggrin

WY86

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EmailAddress said:
To cross the Midlands ringroads as fast as possible when your second phone vibrate in ya man-pouch?
I was also in the anti Man-pouch camp. However after a recent trip to the airport with pockets full of headphones, wallet, phone, Passport, sunglasses and mints, i do now see they may have some actual rare purpose.

miroku1

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Riveting

British Beef

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When slammed with 22 in alloys looks like 1.5 scale RS3.

Not my cup of tea, but if Ronin was made in 2024, maybe this would be his charriot?

Terminator X

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Fair play to them hustling that around there so fast!

TX.

AmyRichardson

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EmailAddress said:
What a gyp... '...specific tuning of the adaptive air suspension...'

So they slammed it, to lap it.
Maybe the Nurburgring authorities could construct a German standardised wet, sticky ploughed field and any SUV that can't clear 300m of it, in full track trim and from a standing start, gets a booby prize in the shape of a place on the MPV leader board biglaugh