RE: Ford Puma 1.7 | Spotted

RE: Ford Puma 1.7 | Spotted

Tuesday 25th June

Ford Puma 1.7 | Spotted

Bored of heavy, expensive new cars? Not keen on overpriced classics? Cheap Pumas still exist...


If the classification of modern classics was an objective assessment, the original Ford Puma would surely be worth a small fortune. Think of all the cars that are collectable (and valuable) now, then compare their attributes to the little Ford’s: here’s a car that was popular in period and now much rarer, powered by a revvy 16-valve engine, paired only with a wonderful manual gearbox and blessed with supreme handling. The Puma looked good and didn’t - still doesn’t - cost an awful lot to run. There are cars of a similar age that tick fewer boxes which are offered at much more money. 

It’s all very strange, if very good news for those that actually want to buy old cars and drive them. Yes, we’re a hot hatch-obsessed nation, but then look at how much some of the very last Ford Capris - made in the hot hatch’s '80s pomp - are now valued at. Fast Ford pocket rockets much less nice to drive than the Puma cost huge amounts more in vaguely comparable condition. For so long the Puma has been tipped as the next big thing in future classics; the Racing has gone berserk, though the standard 1.7 remains temptingly affordable. As in really quite cheap.

In the current climate, that’s welcome. Maybe prices will just remain low, and those who like them can buy and enjoy them without worrying about remortgaging to buy one or never getting behind the wheel for fear of harming the value. Take this Puma as the perfect example. It’s a 2002 1.7, so one of the latter cars made (production ended in 2003); it’s covered just 42,000 miles in that time, is with its second owner, and is said to come with lots of stamps and receipts in the history.

That there’s rust mentioned in the MOT history from a few years back feels like saying words have vowels - it’ll inevitably be there at some point. But it was seemingly addressed in 2018, and the tests before and since have been good. All the interior switches look decent, as do the seat bolsters and famously scratchable gear knob - all the stuff that wears in cheap cars has lasted really well. 

And it’s £2,995. Three grand for one of Ford’s best-handling small cars ever made. Perhaps it doesn’t have the image or reputation of some of the Blue Oval icons, but there’s no doubting what a brilliant little driver’s car the Puma was. When there’s seemingly such a dearth of affordable, interesting, modern classic cars out there, it looks better than it ever has. It’s not modified, it’s seemingly not had any paint, and the last MOT was advisory-free (after some advisories were seen to). For little more than Shed money. 

The value on offer with a Puma becomes clear when you look at other fast Fords available for anywhere near the same money. A Fiesta ST (which nobody really liked as much) at this money will have 100,000 miles or more; a Focus ST will either be the uninspiring 2.0-litre 170 or the turbo 2.5 with more than a dozen owners. Even the Mondeo ST220, forever the bargain of the bunch, is hard to come by at this sort of cash. The Puma won’t be tremendously fast, or sound like a rally car, but it’s hard to think of much else that provides so much fun for so little. Long may it continue - something old and good has to stay cheap, doesn’t it?


SPECIFICATION | FORD PUMA 1.7

Engine: 1,679cc, four-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 125@6,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 115@4,500rpm
MPG: 38
CO2: 171g/km
Year registered: 2002
Recorded mileage: 42,470
Price new: £14,550 (1997)
Yours for: £2,995

See the original advert here

 

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SDK

Original Poster:

966 posts

255 months

Wednesday
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Wow - Such a step back in time !
Takes me back to 2002 when my 1.7 Puma had 40k miles - It was my first car and I loved it.

This one seems like a bargain at £3k

molineux1980

1,206 posts

221 months

Wednesday
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Always fancied a Puma.

I had a Fiesta Zetec-S of a similar vintage, which I believe was the same chassis, albeit with a 1.6 engine - It was good fun to drive but felt like it needed a better engine, it's a shame it didn't use the 1.7.

biggbn

24,221 posts

222 months

Wednesday
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These are brilliant. We had a 1.6 model and it was a riot. Check for lots of rot though, even on cars that look shiny and solid

Nickp82

3,246 posts

95 months

Wednesday
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Great cars, silver is the best colour for it I think too. I have one, it doesn’t get much use but given how little it’s worth there’s not much point selling it, it just comes out every now and then for a bit of retro driving fun.


AKjr

422 posts

13 months

Wednesday
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That is awesome, and such a sweet steer, too.

Great little car... where has the last couple of decades gone? grumpy

Turbobanana

6,432 posts

203 months

Wednesday
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I have a 16 year old who turns 17 in September. He's keen to learn to drive a "proper" car (read: manual) before everything goes all EV and self-drive. He probably won't undertake too many long journeys while at sixth form. This car is 25 miles from me. It's probably as safe, in the real world, as a more modern hatchback. It's easily fixed, has enough driver aids to feel modern(ish) and is stylish. Running costs will be sensible.

I wonder... scratchchin

ferret50

1,134 posts

11 months

Wednesday
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What does VED cost on this?

Sparky137

873 posts

183 months

Wednesday
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ferret50 said:
What does VED cost on this?
Took me less time to find it than it would have taken you to type the question!!

https://www.parkers.co.uk/ford/puma/coupe-1997/car...

Sparky137

873 posts

183 months

Wednesday
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Turbobanana said:
I have a 16 year old who turns 17 in September. He's keen to learn to drive a "proper" car (read: manual) before everything goes all EV and self-drive. He probably won't undertake too many long journeys while at sixth form. This car is 25 miles from me. It's probably as safe, in the real world, as a more modern hatchback. It's easily fixed, has enough driver aids to feel modern(ish) and is stylish. Running costs will be sensible.

I wonder... scratchchin
Insurance will probably cost more than the car, its a group 25 vehicle. For comparison a Cosa D 1.4 petrol is group 6.

biggbn

24,221 posts

222 months

Wednesday
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Turbobanana said:
I have a 16 year old who turns 17 in September. He's keen to learn to drive a "proper" car (read: manual) before everything goes all EV and self-drive. He probably won't undertake too many long journeys while at sixth form. This car is 25 miles from me. It's probably as safe, in the real world, as a more modern hatchback. It's easily fixed, has enough driver aids to feel modern(ish) and is stylish. Running costs will be sensible.

I wonder... scratchchin
Just check the MOT history, bit what a first car that would be. They are actually quite quick and they can be a bit lairy on a back road of you don't know what you are doing. Very direct, very 'pointy', easy lift off oversteer.

dunnoreally

1,013 posts

110 months

Wednesday
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Sparky137 said:
Turbobanana said:
I have a 16 year old who turns 17 in September. He's keen to learn to drive a "proper" car (read: manual) before everything goes all EV and self-drive. He probably won't undertake too many long journeys while at sixth form. This car is 25 miles from me. It's probably as safe, in the real world, as a more modern hatchback. It's easily fixed, has enough driver aids to feel modern(ish) and is stylish. Running costs will be sensible.

I wonder... scratchchin
Insurance will probably cost more than the car, its a group 25 vehicle. For comparison a Cosa D 1.4 petrol is group 6.
They do the 1.4 of course. I had one as my first car and insurance wasn't too bad. This was more than a decade ago mind...

Having had said 1.4 and also a 1.6, I tell myself I'll get a 1.7 someday.

Charlie Croker mk2

283 posts

102 months

Wednesday
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There is a rare one owner 1.4 on eBay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126543712704


66HFM

343 posts

27 months

Wednesday
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My nephew had a green 1.4 Puma, which had been owned from new by a family member.
I got annoyed with him that he didn't tell me he was thinking of selling it as he traded it in for peanuts against a Ford Focus, with a baby o nthe way...

My ideal choice, Racing excepted, would be a 1.7 with the original 4 spoke alloys

Turbobanana

6,432 posts

203 months

Wednesday
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66HFM said:
My ideal choice, Racing excepted, would be a 1.7 with the original 4 spoke alloys
Did they ever have 4 spoke wheels? They certainly had 5:


thehardman07

158 posts

183 months

Wednesday
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Turbobanana said:
I have a 16 year old who turns 17 in September. He's keen to learn to drive a "proper" car (read: manual) before everything goes all EV and self-drive. He probably won't undertake too many long journeys while at sixth form. This car is 25 miles from me. It's probably as safe, in the real world, as a more modern hatchback. It's easily fixed, has enough driver aids to feel modern(ish) and is stylish. Running costs will be sensible.

I wonder... scratchchin
Come on, we're not your wife you're trying to convince here! Just tell us the truth and say you're fancying it for yourself and the added bonus is your son can potentially use it too!

Nickp82

3,246 posts

95 months

Wednesday
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And of course it had the coolest ever advert


cerb4.5lee

31,344 posts

182 months

Wednesday
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I remember booking a test drive of one of these back in 1997. I loved the way it looked, and all the reviews of it at the time were glowing too. Something came up, and I couldn't make the test drive though. I definitely regret missing that, and I still feel like I have unfinished business with them to be honest.

66HFM

343 posts

27 months

Wednesday
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Turbobanana said:
Did they ever have 4 spoke wheels? They certainly had 5:

Spot on Turbobanana, I ran out of fingers to count them with.

Definitely a much better alloy than the later multi-spokes, IMHO

maxwellwd

273 posts

88 months

Wednesday
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I bought a low mileage run out model a few years back. Spent a load on it, you could still buy at the time original puma floor mats from Ford.

Such a cool car, but the rot! I got a rust free example, but when I sold it more rot was coming through. I bought a spares/repair one to swap over the interior as it was a thunder model and had the nice leather seats, all the sills and arches were rotten as a pair. Such a shame as that gearchange is one of the best, Such a pointy quick enough car in 1.7 guise.

You hardly see any now sadly, I am surprised that they are still worth peanuts.

Also, on this subject, when did you last see a Cougar on the road, it's bigger brother?

Turbobanana

6,432 posts

203 months

Wednesday
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thehardman07 said:
Turbobanana said:
I have a 16 year old who turns 17 in September. He's keen to learn to drive a "proper" car (read: manual) before everything goes all EV and self-drive. He probably won't undertake too many long journeys while at sixth form. This car is 25 miles from me. It's probably as safe, in the real world, as a more modern hatchback. It's easily fixed, has enough driver aids to feel modern(ish) and is stylish. Running costs will be sensible.

I wonder... scratchchin
Come on, we're not your wife you're trying to convince here! Just tell us the truth and say you're fancying it for yourself and the added bonus is your son can potentially use it too!
Mrs Banana would love it, actually: she's been a Fiesta girl ever since I've known her and is currently on her fourth, so knowing this is Fiesta-based would make it an easy sell. I genuinely meant my comment about a first car for my son: this feels like it breaches the middle ground between a "proper" old-skool classic and more modern metal. The comment above re insurance is valid, and would need proper consideration because although we view it as an old car, insurance companies either don't or, if they do, will insure it only as a classic and therefore restrict its use.

I'm not sure why I like these because I'm normally more drawn to cars with straight edges and, let's face it, a Puma doesn't have any.

And yes, if I did buy it for Banana Jr., I'd make sure I was on the insurance as well. Just in case, you understand smile