The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*

The Official F1 2025 silly season *contains speculation*

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vaud

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51,762 posts

160 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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While PigInAPoke continues his fine run of race threads, I will continue in my mission to encourage wild speculation backed by armchair experts and the occasional PH expert who has links to F1.

Off we go...

DanielSan

19,087 posts

172 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Lawson in the Racing Bull by Silverstone as Ricciardo is bumped upto the top team. Lawson then announced for the top team for a 25 seat.

This is only a prediction by the way

I was only a couple of races out...

Edited by DanielSan on Thursday 26th September 20:05

Still Mulling

13,154 posts

182 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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One way or another:

During 2024 season:

- Sargent out
- Lawson in
- Ricciardo not in a Racing Bull
- Perez not in a Red Bull

By 2025 start:

- Hamilton calls time on Merc if the car is another dog with a low development ceiling
- Albon away from Williams to a more competitive team
- Norris leaves McLaren if not competing for race wins

Mark-C

5,593 posts

210 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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What contracts expire at the end of 2024? I think that will drive change.

Not knowing the above I'd go for Sargeant, Hulk and Bottas being gone at start of 2025 ....

Leithen

11,883 posts

272 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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If Hulk goes, what of Magnussen?

the-norseman

13,176 posts

176 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Mark-C said:
What contracts expire at the end of 2024?
Think 2024 is the expiry for below, correct me if I'm wrong.

Perez
Leclerc
Sainz
Ocon
Alonso
Gasly
Zhou
Danny R
Yuki T
Albon
Sargeant
Mag
Hulk

bobthemonkey

3,979 posts

221 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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Still Mulling said:
- Hamilton calls time on Merc if the car is another dog with a low development ceiling
Reckon he does an Alonso or a Kimi if that is the case - sit out another RB clean sweep for a year and then come back to whatever team have convinced him they have the measure of the 2026 regs.

Shame it looks like active suspension has been canned (for those of us who still think the FW14B was the coolest thing this side of Concorde) but new engine regs, active aero and a boatload of money from Stuttgart should liven things up a little - or reset the playing field for a while.

the-norseman

13,176 posts

176 months

Friday 1st December 2023
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bobthemonkey said:
Reckon he does an Alonso or a Kimi if that is the case - sit out another RB clean sweep for a year and then come back to whatever team have convinced him they have the measure of the 2026 regs.
Audi

Pflanzgarten

4,675 posts

30 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Apparently Alpine are going using 23 & 24 to pick which of their drivers to to lead with going forward so either Ocon or Gasly will be out of that seat.

A couple of deleted tweets however has rumours of Saintz moving to Audi and Gasly taking his seat at Ferrari alongside Leclerc-his manager was with Fred the other weekend too.

Milkyway

9,872 posts

58 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Logan Sargeant finally reaches double figures in the WDC.

bobthemonkey

3,979 posts

221 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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the-norseman said:
Audi
Audi were last rumoured to be trying to bail out entirely!

Killer2005

19,853 posts

233 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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https://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2023/12/05/655f1b37e...

Spanish GP potentially moving to Madrid.

Muzzer79

10,810 posts

192 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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bobthemonkey said:
Still Mulling said:
- Hamilton calls time on Merc if the car is another dog with a low development ceiling
Reckon he does an Alonso or a Kimi if that is the case - sit out another RB clean sweep for a year and then come back to whatever team have convinced him they have the measure of the 2026 regs.

Shame it looks like active suspension has been canned (for those of us who still think the FW14B was the coolest thing this side of Concorde) but new engine regs, active aero and a boatload of money from Stuttgart should liven things up a little - or reset the playing field for a while.
Money from Stuttgart isn't the issue. The cost cap sees to the fact that cash is no longer king at the top teams - they can't spend themselves to victory.

New regs tend to lead to a new team winning but it's entirely feasible that Red Bull get it right again.

bobthemonkey said:
the-norseman said:
Audi
Audi were last rumoured to be trying to bail out entirely!
I believe that rumour has been quashed now.

BrettMRC

4,367 posts

165 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Assuming the Merc doesn't cut it then I think we could see Hamilton retire at the end of 2025, or move back to McLaren. (Or possibly to Aston Martin)


Sandpit Steve

11,202 posts

79 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Killer2005 said:
https://www.elmundo.es/madrid/2023/12/05/655f1b37e...

Spanish GP potentially moving to Madrid.
Replacing a proper track with another bloody street circuit. No thanks.

TikTak

1,674 posts

24 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Sargeant to not last past Spain after 5 retirements, no points and Albon out qualifying him 10-0.

LH to call time on his career after Merc narrowly beat Alpine to 6th in the constructors after Ferrari, McLaren, Aston and Racing Bulls leapfrog them.

Lawson get's his seat back after Danny Ric replaces Checo in the RB at Imola after the Mexican has a public breakdown in Miami after only scoring 12 points so far.

Track limits are the star of the show at Red Bull Ring yet again, with every car in Q3 having every set lap deleted.

anonymous-user

59 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Alonso to retire at the end of 2024.

Sainz to move to Sauber to join Bottas ready for when they become Audi in 2026.

Ricciardo to still be hopeless and not get the second Red Bull seat. He either goes to Aston to replace Alonso or Haas to replace Magnussen.

Alex Albon to get the now empty Ferrari seat to be team mate to "Monégasque" Leclerc

Mercedes to keep Hamilton and Russell.

McLaren to keep Norris and Piastri

Max becomes the first driver in history to win every single race in the season.


GCH

4,042 posts

207 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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I reckon Vettel could come back....although where, I'm not sure.

Muzzer79

10,810 posts

192 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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GCH said:
I reckon Vettel could come back....although where, I'm not sure.
Maybe Audi.

Depends if they can attract a name. They'll want an established driver and a young, fast driver.

The German-ness helps, of course.

Unlikely though. He's got a young family and squillions, doesn't seem to need F1 to keep him satiated and probably knows that he hasn't been the force he was since he left Red Bull.

I reckon he'll turn up in WEC, if anywhere in a driving capacity.

Wouldn't put it past him to turn up at Red Bull in a Helmut Marko-style role, focusing solely on young drivers.

GCH

4,042 posts

207 months

Tuesday 5th December 2023
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Muzzer79 said:
Unlikely though. He's got a young family and squillions, doesn't seem to need F1 to keep him satiated and probably knows that he hasn't been the force he was since he left Red Bull.
True, but the love of it is clearly still there. Like Alonso, he certainly had more than a few frustrating years which no doubt factored in the decision to quit. Wouldn't be the first to come back after a sabbatical with a renewed and refreshed change of perspective. He is 36, which back in the day would be well on the retirement heap, but as others have shown is not the case anymore. There is also WEC and stuff and he could easily do that first for a year, and then come back to F1.

He was quite candid when asked directly about it in this snippet... https://youtu.be/T0vCfduCTM0?si=AmQ8EVye_FymVRwW&a...

Will be interesting to see if he does.