Kitchens, what company?

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Dupont666

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21,666 posts

198 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Does anyone know any good companies that dont cost the earth to buy from and fit?

Is it possible to fit a kitchen buy oneself or is it a specialist job?

Are the deals from place like magnet worth considering or are they as dodgy and crap as ikea kitchens?

Im not really bothered by appliances unless they come as a package or are free, mainly cause im a stingy bugger and current appliances work perfectly fine.

budget is up to 6k.

Sciroccology

29,908 posts

236 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Go to Wickes. They're brilliant, Wickes are. Try Wickes.

V8mate

45,899 posts

195 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Wherever you go, make sure you pay all monies by credit card. Firms are dropping like flies at the moment.

martinmac

536 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Have fitted about 20 and there are definately tricks to know. Used to get them from Contrast Kitchens in Carlisle. Good stuff and they came ready assenbles and made to fit. Need to get the measurements spot on though.

toasty

7,656 posts

226 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Sciroccology said:
Go to Wickes. They're brilliant, Wickes are. Try Wickes.
+1 Just get a decent fitter. They should be able to recommend one.

Dupont666

Original Poster:

21,666 posts

198 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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V8mate said:
Wherever you go, make sure you pay all monies by credit card. Firms are dropping like flies at the moment.
trust me, everything will be done on a credit card....

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

215 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Avoid B&Q

HTH

Sciroccology

29,908 posts

236 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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toasty said:
Sciroccology said:
Go to Wickes. They're brilliant, Wickes are. Try Wickes.
+1 Just get a decent fitter. They should be able to recommend one.
Yep, the store will have a list of recommended fitters.

scotal

8,751 posts

285 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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toasty said:
Sciroccology said:
Go to Wickes. They're brilliant, Wickes are. Try Wickes.
+1 Just get a decent fitter. They should be able to recommend one.
Wickes cabinets are great, but don't buy their wooden worktops, they need oiling and are a pain in the arse (they look nice though)

TallMark

593 posts

233 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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toasty said:
Sciroccology said:
Go to Wickes. They're brilliant, Wickes are. Try Wickes.
+1 Just get a decent fitter. They should be able to recommend one.
I also have a Wickes kitchen, and am very happy with it - good price, decent range. They gave us a list of local fitters, and the guy who did ours was a one man army - very efficient, not very expensive and he had the whole thing turned around in a week. Excellent job! About 8k for the whole thing (including appliances and fitting) and the same quality as any other brands. Most of our other quotes were 10k plus, Moben being about 13k. We probably tried about 6 or 7 places for quotes too.

I've been told the kitcher designers/consultants at places like Moben are paid highly on commission, but that any mistakes like say they miss a small part you need, or don't quote for enough material somewhere, or don't account for extra wiring/plumbing etc - those mistakes come out of their pay, so they tend to overquote to allow for it and there's room for some haggling. But Wickes designers get a much smaller commission in comparison and I found them equally as good at their job.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

253 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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http://www.howdens.com/

Wickes kitchens are pretty good as are B&Q's

Avoid Homebase and Focus.

If you are relatively handy and have a decent basic toolkit there is no reason why you could not fit one yourself. The only area best left to someone with experience is the worktop mitre.

davea3

118 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Shop around for your kitchen and find one you like all the diy stores are of the same quality b&q, homebase, magnet and wickes. Moben is a little more up market may get an ex display from a bespoke kitchen show room if they are changing there display soon these are great as you can get a top spec expensive kitchen at stupid money depends on size etc.

Dont get it fitted by them tho this is a generalisation and may not be true in all cases but there fitters are not the best and they throw it in and dont pay much attention to detail.

You should get your own carpenter/kitchen fitter(should be able to do tilling and plumbing) who you trust, from reccomendations, friends and family etc

You could build all the units yourself its just flat pack furniture and very easy you would save a few days labour here and pay the carpenter to Fit them to the wall and fit the worktop and doors, tilling etc

You can save money by making sure that you keep all the electrical points in the same place, change the facias easy to do if your confident.

If you do change your electrics around make sure that you get an electrician that will register it under part p of the building regs.

I fitted my own kitchen except the tilling and work top and saved easily £800-£1000.

Depends on how much time you have and if you can be bothered and how pratical you are.

I can reccomend a couple of people that I use they are not cheap but are very good and they may travel to your location, assuming that you will also be looking for the bathroom to be done at the same time.

TallMark

593 posts

233 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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davea3 said:
Shop around for your kitchen and find one you like all the diy stores are of the same quality b&q, homebase, magnet and wickes. Moben is a little more up market
Disagree. I can't remember now which ones were poorer, but there was a definite variation between the companies - different thicknesses of cabinets for example, like 18mm vs 22mm or whatever it was. The thinner ones felt much more flimsy. What you say may well be true for other aspects though.

davea3

118 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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TallMark said:
Disagree. I can't remember now which ones were poorer, but there was a definite variation between the companies - different thicknesses of cabinets for example, like 18mm vs 22mm or whatever it was. The thinner ones felt much more flimsy. What you say may well be true for other aspects though.
Good point, I can not remember either,B&Q tend to have most of the major parts on the shelf and places like wickes and homebase you have to wait a while.

Edited by davea3 on Saturday 10th January 16:06

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

201 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Ikea have some good kitchens too, contrry to the popular view that Ikea is "tat".

Mostly contemporary (white/red/black gloss, stainless steel) designs but I'm guessing that's what you're after?
They have very good kitchen planning staff in every store and also a handy planning tool that you can download from their site and play about with at home.

Not difficult to install a kitchen as long as you take your time, prepare everything (walls, floors, etc.) properly first and pay attention to details.
I designed and fitted my own kitchen in my last flat which included knocking a wall down.

Go for it. smile

Dupont666

Original Poster:

21,666 posts

198 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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basically what i was wanting to do is throw away the entire kitchen bar the washing machine, cooker (unless i can get another cheap) and fridge freezer, strip and re-plaster so there is a good surface, rip up the titles i have and replace them with some others, possibly relocate the boiler or hide the bugger so that its in a cabinet. from then on its get a kitchen and fit it, im not bothered if it takes a week or two and im happy to do stuff myself, except for plastering and lights, so from there its up to me to try and find something reasonable.

Dupont666

Original Poster:

21,666 posts

198 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
Ikea have some good kitchens too, contrry to the popular view that Ikea is "tat".

Mostly contemporary (white/red/black gloss, stainless steel) designs but I'm guessing that's what you're after?
They have very good kitchen planning staff in every store and also a handy planning tool that you can download from their site and play about with at home.

Not difficult to install a kitchen as long as you take your time, prepare everything (walls, floors, etc.) properly first and pay attention to details.
I designed and fitted my own kitchen in my last flat which included knocking a wall down.

Go for it. smile
ikea you say.... what do the rest of you guys think of ikea? Is it acceptable to put that in and get a good finish, or could i get the tabinets from them and a good work surface from someone else?

Astacus

3,476 posts

240 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
Ikea have some good kitchens too, contrry to the popular view that Ikea is "tat".

Mostly contemporary (white/red/black gloss, stainless steel) designs but I'm guessing that's what you're after?
They have very good kitchen planning staff in every store and also a handy planning tool that you can download from their site and play about with at home.

Not difficult to install a kitchen as long as you take your time, prepare everything (walls, floors, etc.) properly first and pay attention to details.
I designed and fitted my own kitchen in my last flat which included knocking a wall down.

Go for it. smile
yes we looked at these, but beware, the door sizes are different from anyone else, so you can't swap doors later

Marcusfenix

306 posts

247 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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Get yourself to b&Q 15% off everything till Sunday....

davea3

118 posts

203 months

Saturday 10th January 2009
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As long as the Ikea kitchen suits your needs.

Be careful different size doors to most you can get work top from where ever you like and fit it to what ever kitchen you like, just get a carpenter to do the joint and cut out for sink etc, if you go for wood or laminate.