Spitfire - loop the loop?

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Shotgun Jon

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249 posts

140 months

Monday 24th June
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I was driving up the M40 today and at about 2.45pm when I was near Aylesbury I’m sure I saw a Spitfire in front of me do a loop the loop.

I’ve looked on flightradar but can’t find anything. Was I seeing things?

It was an awesome sight whatever aircraft it was!

CanAm

9,409 posts

275 months

Monday 24th June
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Shotgun Jon said:
I was driving up the M40 today and at about 2.45pm when I was near Aylesbury I’m sure I saw a Spitfire in front of me do a loop the loop.

I’ve looked on flightradar but can’t find anything. Was I seeing things?

It was an awesome sight whatever aircraft it was!
Have you allowed for Flight Radar being in what we used to call GMT?

Shotgun Jon

Original Poster:

249 posts

140 months

Monday 24th June
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No, how do I do that?

Simpo Two

85,979 posts

268 months

Monday 24th June
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Just search an hour earlier.

normalbloke

7,521 posts

222 months

Monday 24th June
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They fly from Daedalus and Goodwood, often blatting between the two, and a lap of the I.O.W. They regularly pull off various manoeuvres almost in front of my property, over the water, this includes loops and various barrel/victory rolls. I’d say I become desensitised to it, but I’d be fibbing. It’s bloody awesome and I never take it for granted.

Mercdriver

2,251 posts

36 months

Monday 24th June
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I think they are restricted to positive G to save the airframe, probably depends on the skill of the pilot.

Although anyone who flies a spitfire is a god smile

Nemophilist

3,002 posts

184 months

Monday 24th June
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There is a man on the border of Bucks / herts who owns a spitfire and we occasionally see him doing manoeuvres this time of year.
I’m not 100% sure but think it’s stored at the Shuttleworth collection the rest of the year

(There’s an air show on at shuttleworth this Sunday that’s usually a good day out)

Edited by Nemophilist on Monday 24th June 22:40

Mercdriver

2,251 posts

36 months

Monday 24th June
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Relative of ours lives in stubbington near the old Daedalus navy base. Spitfires seem to fly out of there regularly, does not matter how often you hear that engine you still look up to see it.

Fabulous sound.

Sorry to read that Carolyn grace died in a car accident in New Zealand where she run a sheep farm, can’t understand why she gave up flying spitfires to manage sheep farm I suppose every job has its downside.
Would have loved to meet and fly with her, not to be now

Tony1963

4,939 posts

165 months

Monday 24th June
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Mercdriver said:
Sorry to read that Carolyn grace died in a car accident in New Zealand where she run a sheep farm, can’t understand why she gave up flying spitfires to manage sheep farm I suppose every job has its downside.
Would have loved to meet and fly with her, not to be now
18 months ago…

Stick Legs

5,245 posts

168 months

Monday 24th June
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I was coming into Southampton via the Needles channel last summer and was treated to a brilliant display of a Spitfire IX (or maybe a VIII) doing a series of very acrobatic manoeuvres.

My all time Spitfire highlight was watching another IX undertaking a full display over Cliffe Marshes, but much more vigorous than I have ever seen & pulling out very low indeed.

This would have been about 2004.

No evidence as such but convinced it would gave had to be MH434 & Ray Hanna as I can think of no one borrowing someone else’s Spitfire would fly it like that, and can think of no other owner who would have the skill to throw one about like that.

No airshow, no crowd, just 20 mins of pure low level acrobatics.

Stunning.


Edited by Stick Legs on Tuesday 25th June 08:38

rodericb

6,872 posts

129 months

Tuesday 25th June
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There were some training aircraft (Texan?) going through there yesterday. I was watching a youtube livestream from the Mach Loop and, if you don't know that much about military prop aircraft, you might mistake a spec in the sky which is a Texan for a Spitfire. Especially coloured black, which the Texan I saw was....

Arnold Cunningham

3,796 posts

256 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Yeah. they fly from Daedalus (Lee on Solent) and Goodwood - it's the same lot.

I bought one of the lap of IOW flights for my mum a couple of years back - and I did a flight in the T-6 Texan they use, flying in formation with my mum in the Spitfire before she went off around the island.

This is our flight: https://youtu.be/y32jmetFl_8?t=860
If you move the camera around to look out the stbd side, you can see the T-6 in formation with the spitfire.

He did offer to do some aerobatics for my mum - but she was 88 back then and preferred to enjoy the view.

It was superb. Not cheap, but very very good.

Very different sound in the air of both aircraft - the Merlin V12 is very distinctive, especially compared to the Pratt & Witney radial in the T-6.

Simpo Two

85,979 posts

268 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Stick Legs said:
No airshow, no crowd, just 20 mins of pure low level acrobatics.
Acrobatics...




Aerobatics:



Stick Legs

5,245 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Simpo Two said:
Acrobatics...




Aerobatics:

biglaugh

Autocorrect or my fat fingers.

CanAm

9,409 posts

275 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Arnold Cunningham said:
Yeah. they fly from Daedalus (Lee on Solent) and Goodwood - it's the same lot.

I bought one of the lap of IOW flights for my mum a couple of years back - and I did a flight in the T-6 Texan they use, flying in formation with my mum in the Spitfire before she went off around the island.

This is our flight: https://youtu.be/y32jmetFl_8?t=860
If you move the camera around to look out the stbd side, you can see the T-6 in formation with the spitfire.

He did offer to do some aerobatics for my mum - but she was 88 back then and preferred to enjoy the view.

It was superb. Not cheap, but very very good.

Very different sound in the air of both aircraft - the Merlin V12 is very distinctive, especially compared to the Pratt & Witney radial in the T-6.
I think rodericb meant the RAF's current Beechcraft Texan rather than the WW2 Texan (Harvard).

Mark V GTD

2,288 posts

127 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Shotgun Jon said:
I was driving up the M40 today and at about 2.45pm when I was near Aylesbury I’m sure I saw a Spitfire in front of me do a loop the loop.

I’ve looked on flightradar but can’t find anything. Was I seeing things?

It was an awesome sight whatever aircraft it was!
Very much doubt you were seeing things. There are more Spitfires flying in UK now than since the late 40's and many are 2-seaters being used to take passengers on experience flights which often include aerobatics.

Loops (only small children and newspapers like the Daily Mail refer to a 'loop the loop') are fairly gentle positive G manoeuvres that do not exert excessive stress on the airframe.

Eric Mc

122,373 posts

268 months

Tuesday 25th June
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"Aerobatics" is actually what is called a portmanteau word - being a combination of "aerial" and "acrobatics".

I don't get too fussed if people refer to aerobatics as acrobatics as the words are linked.

Arnold Cunningham

3,796 posts

256 months

Tuesday 25th June
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CanAm said:
I think rodericb meant the RAF's current Beechcraft Texan rather than the WW2 Texan (Harvard).
Good point. I was thinking in the context of the spitfires flying in the vicinity of the the needles, which frequently fly with a harvard. smile



Edited by Arnold Cunningham on Tuesday 25th June 12:59

rodericb

6,872 posts

129 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Arnold Cunningham said:
CanAm said:
I think rodericb meant the RAF's current Beechcraft Texan rather than the WW2 Texan (Harvard).
Good point. I was thinking in the context of the spitfires flying in the vicinity of the the needles, which frequently fly with a harvard. smile



Edited by Arnold Cunningham on Tuesday 25th June 12:59
Well, I saw loop the loop, skimmed through the post and thought it was referring to the Mach Loop...... getmecoat


hehe

Eric Mc

122,373 posts

268 months

Tuesday 25th June
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Has anybody ever looped the loop in the Mach Loop?

Has anybody ever exceeded Mach 1 in the Mach Loop?

We need to know these things.